Comments for Project VFR http://projectvfr.com Deconstruct --- Reconstruct Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:38:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 Comment on Rear fairing replacement by Benjamin http://projectvfr.com/progress/changes-made/rear-fairing-replacement/comment-page-1/#comment-1273 Benjamin Fri, 03 Jun 2011 00:38:48 +0000 http://projectvfr.com/?page_id=24#comment-1273 hey great build you've got going.... just wondering what year cbr is the rear seat off?? thanx hey great build you’ve got going…. just wondering what year cbr is the rear seat off?? thanx

]]> Comment on The Project by Danny http://projectvfr.com/comment-page-1/#comment-589 Danny Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:06:08 +0000 http://projectvfr.com#comment-589 Hi again Dave, Nice mod to the rear brake line! :-) Did you use the standard rear caliper? Can't wait until you finish your page on delinking the brakes! I bet it would save a few kg, even without changing the heavy linked front caliper. Excellent stuff! I haven't been to the Thursday night ride for a few weeks... I'm waiting for parts to come in from overseas, so my suspension can be fixed. I'll let you know when I'm back on two wheels, so maybe we can meet up at the ride, so I can drool at your bike... :-) Cheers, Danny Hi again Dave,

Nice mod to the rear brake line! :-)
Did you use the standard rear caliper? Can’t wait until you finish your page on delinking the brakes! I bet it would save a few kg, even without changing the heavy linked front caliper. Excellent stuff!

I haven’t been to the Thursday night ride for a few weeks… I’m waiting for parts to come in from overseas, so my suspension can be fixed. I’ll let you know when I’m back on two wheels, so maybe we can meet up at the ride, so I can drool at your bike… :-)

Cheers,
Danny

]]> Comment on The Project by Dave http://projectvfr.com/comment-page-1/#comment-560 Dave Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:14:09 +0000 http://projectvfr.com#comment-560 Welcome Jose. I have done the PAIR valve removal. It is really only a minor thing to do and my reasons were to remove some rubber hoses and maybe get more of a nice rumble sound on deceleration. Not much weight in the PAIR system really, just hoses and space. Some people like it, some less so but again it is a very minor thing to change. It is also a change made to other bikes with the PAIR system and not unique to VFR. I suggest you take a look at the many posts on this topic - eg: <a href="http://vfrworld.com/forums/mechanics-garage/7625-pciii-pair-valve-mod.html" rel="nofollow"></a> & <a href="http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php/topic/53993-pair-valve-removal-on-a-vtec-issue/" rel="nofollow"></a> Cheers, Dave. Welcome Jose. I have done the PAIR valve removal. It is really only a minor thing to do and my reasons were to remove some rubber hoses and maybe get more of a nice rumble sound on deceleration. Not much weight in the PAIR system really, just hoses and space. Some people like it, some less so but again it is a very minor thing to change.

It is also a change made to other bikes with the PAIR system and not unique to VFR.

I suggest you take a look at the many posts on this topic – eg: &

Cheers,
Dave.

]]> Comment on The Project by Dave http://projectvfr.com/comment-page-1/#comment-555 Dave Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:08:43 +0000 http://projectvfr.com#comment-555 Hi Chris, have been buying a few bits and pieces to play with further and looking for time to get in and do it. Have CBR600RR & CBR954 swingarms to play with next. Will more likely go with the 600 swingarm to allow the rear exhaust headers to reach back under the engine. Looking to make a considerable weight saving there with both the much lighter swingarm and wheel. Will weigh the VFR swingarm when I get it out as it looks very solid and heavy. Will keep you informed. Cheers, Dave. Hi Chris, have been buying a few bits and pieces to play with further and looking for time to get in and do it.

Have CBR600RR & CBR954 swingarms to play with next. Will more likely go with the 600 swingarm to allow the rear exhaust headers to reach back under the engine. Looking to make a considerable weight saving there with both the much lighter swingarm and wheel. Will weigh the VFR swingarm when I get it out as it looks very solid and heavy.

Will keep you informed.

Cheers,
Dave.

]]> Comment on The Project by Dave http://projectvfr.com/comment-page-1/#comment-552 Dave Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:29:26 +0000 http://projectvfr.com#comment-552 Hi Danny and thanks for saying hi. Not sure exactly how much weight has gone from it but I'm guessing 20Kg+. Weight loss was really a sum of the parts. Things that were removed or swapped out for lighter items included - centre stand, forks, front wheel and discs (slight weight saving), removal of the entire DCBS especially the heavy front caliper, handlebars, fairings (yes they are heavy), pretty much every bit of non-required stuff and of course the super-heavy rear subframe and mufflers. Will soon be putting a conventional swingarm (CBR600 or 954) which will take more Kilos off, especially considering the heavy weight of the VFR wheel also, if time (my wife) permits that is. ;) Also working on a different kind of motorcycle lifter to make working on it much easier. When that is done it will be easy to actually weigh the whole thing accurately. The brakes - removed it all and ran a line inside the swingarm for the rear brake as shown here - <a href="http://projectvfr.com/progress/changes-made/rear-brake-line-re-route/" rel="nofollow">rear-brake-line-re-route</a> Yep the front brakes are standard CBR1000 matching the forks and work great on the VFR. Have heard of but never been on the thursday night rides. Might be a fun thing to do as have heard a bit about it from those who have. Something you do often? Cheers, Dave. Hi Danny and thanks for saying hi.

Not sure exactly how much weight has gone from it but I’m guessing 20Kg+. Weight loss was really a sum of the parts. Things that were removed or swapped out for lighter items included – centre stand, forks, front wheel and discs (slight weight saving), removal of the entire DCBS especially the heavy front caliper, handlebars, fairings (yes they are heavy), pretty much every bit of non-required stuff and of course the super-heavy rear subframe and mufflers.

Will soon be putting a conventional swingarm (CBR600 or 954) which will take more Kilos off, especially considering the heavy weight of the VFR wheel also, if time (my wife) permits that is. ;)

Also working on a different kind of motorcycle lifter to make working on it much easier. When that is done it will be easy to actually weigh the whole thing accurately.

The brakes – removed it all and ran a line inside the swingarm for the rear brake as shown here – rear-brake-line-re-route

Yep the front brakes are standard CBR1000 matching the forks and work great on the VFR.

Have heard of but never been on the thursday night rides. Might be a fun thing to do as have heard a bit about it from those who have.
Something you do often?

Cheers,
Dave.

]]> Comment on The Project by Danny http://projectvfr.com/comment-page-1/#comment-501 Danny Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:20:32 +0000 http://projectvfr.com#comment-501 Hi Dave, Nice bike! Just wondering how much weight you've taken off it. I have a 5th gen that I'd like to shave some weight off (probably the easiest thing is to remove the centre stand), and I'm interested in knowing what worked for you. There are rumours of Honda bringing out a RVF1000 in 2012 to be the new flagship sportbike, making the CBR1000 take second place in the Honda line-up. Dare I say it, it's about time! Since the RVF disappeared, the Honda V4's have basically been good general bikes, but nothing spectacular at anything. Also wondering what you did with the brakes. I assume you de-linked them (as far as I'm aware, the linked front calipers wouldn't fit on the CBR forks). I'd love to know how you went about doing the brakes. Again, nice work on the bike. I hope to see you at one of the Thursday night group rides from the BP servo near the St Kilda marina (people meet there 7:00pm for 7:30pm start every Thurs night). :-) Cheers, Danny Hi Dave,

Nice bike! Just wondering how much weight you’ve taken off it. I have a 5th gen that I’d like to shave some weight off (probably the easiest thing is to remove the centre stand), and I’m interested in knowing what worked for you.

There are rumours of Honda bringing out a RVF1000 in 2012 to be the new flagship sportbike, making the CBR1000 take second place in the Honda line-up. Dare I say it, it’s about time! Since the RVF disappeared, the Honda V4′s have basically been good general bikes, but nothing spectacular at anything.

Also wondering what you did with the brakes. I assume you de-linked them (as far as I’m aware, the linked front calipers wouldn’t fit on the CBR forks). I’d love to know how you went about doing the brakes.

Again, nice work on the bike. I hope to see you at one of the Thursday night group rides from the BP servo near the St Kilda marina (people meet there 7:00pm for 7:30pm start every Thurs night). :-)

Cheers,
Danny

]]> Comment on The Project by Jose http://projectvfr.com/comment-page-1/#comment-440 Jose Wed, 05 Jan 2011 07:19:55 +0000 http://projectvfr.com#comment-440 Hi I want to remove the PAIR system from my VFR800 since I read is heavy, lesspower and emit some noise at low speed. Could you help me? What can I remove (solenoids, etc)? Best regards and very nice bike. Jose Vives Hi

I want to remove the PAIR system from my VFR800 since I read is heavy, lesspower and emit some noise at low speed.
Could you help me?
What can I remove (solenoids, etc)?
Best regards and very nice bike.
Jose Vives

]]> Comment on The Project by Chris Walker http://projectvfr.com/comment-page-1/#comment-267 Chris Walker Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:53:40 +0000 http://projectvfr.com#comment-267 Hi Dave, Any update on this project ? I'm busy modifying a low mileage 5th Gen. The plan is to have a bit of a street sleeper. But one thing I'm concentrating on is reducing weight, to that end, I'm removing any surplus meat or compenents, so far I've saved about 12kg. The swingarm is a signature piece on these bikes, so I'd be interested in waht it weighs. Round two will commence later in the year & will include the backend. Hi Dave, Any update on this project ? I’m busy modifying a low mileage 5th Gen. The plan is to have a bit of a street sleeper. But one thing I’m concentrating on is reducing weight, to that end, I’m removing any surplus meat or compenents, so far I’ve saved about 12kg. The swingarm is a signature piece on these bikes, so I’d be interested in waht it weighs. Round two will commence later in the year & will include the backend.

]]> Comment on CBR954RR swingarm by Dave http://projectvfr.com/progress/change-ideas/cbr954rr-swingarm/comment-page-1/#comment-197 Dave Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:07:02 +0000 http://projectvfr.com/?page_id=92#comment-197 <a href="#comment-168" rel="nofollow">@Angus</a> Apologies Angus, I didn't read your entire question. The pre-vtec is the 5th gen yeah? I'm getting confused. Either way they will have the same clearances and swingarm mounting widths etc as the vtec. With late model swingarms things were the same config up until the 2004 CBR1000rr when honda went for the internally contained spring/shock in the swingarm and no mounting to the upper frame. These are no good as the swingarm pivot is a single contained section from left to right whereas vfr and earlier cbr are a split swingarm bearing pivot, ie: separate left/right bearing sections. Anything CBR929/954 is pretty much the same mounting as VFR. Some small differences such as swingarm length variation but otherwise very similar and similar linkages that will match up. @Angus
Apologies Angus, I didn’t read your entire question.

The pre-vtec is the 5th gen yeah? I’m getting confused. Either way they will have the same clearances and swingarm mounting widths etc as the vtec.

With late model swingarms things were the same config up until the 2004 CBR1000rr when honda went for the internally contained spring/shock in the swingarm and no mounting to the upper frame. These are no good as the swingarm pivot is a single contained section from left to right whereas vfr and earlier cbr are a split swingarm bearing pivot, ie: separate left/right bearing sections.

Anything CBR929/954 is pretty much the same mounting as VFR. Some small differences such as swingarm length variation but otherwise very similar and similar linkages that will match up.

]]> Comment on CBR954RR swingarm by Dave http://projectvfr.com/progress/change-ideas/cbr954rr-swingarm/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Dave Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:59:00 +0000 http://projectvfr.com/?page_id=92#comment-196 My understanding is that it should be pretty much a direct transfer. The VFR swingarm is often used in 929/954 and other honda's and is a simple fit so the other way should be easy. the only complication will be rear exhaust header clearances but some creative pipe work should fix that. What I'm about to muck around with here is fitting a late model 600RR swingarm, ie: not mounted through shock/spring to the upper frame at all. I do believe it is possible and will be having a go at it soon. Good luck with it. Cheers, Dave. My understanding is that it should be pretty much a direct transfer. The VFR swingarm is often used in 929/954 and other honda’s and is a simple fit so the other way should be easy. the only complication will be rear exhaust header clearances but some creative pipe work should fix that.

What I’m about to muck around with here is fitting a late model 600RR swingarm, ie: not mounted through shock/spring to the upper frame at all.

I do believe it is possible and will be having a go at it soon.

Good luck with it.
Cheers,
Dave.

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